**Next message:**Deconchat Marc: "CCA: correlation et coefficient des variables explicatives"**Previous message:**Steve Bousquin: "ADE newsgroup"**Maybe in reply to:**Byungok Ahn: "ADE.OLD"**Messages sorted by:**[ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]

Hi Byungok Ahn

Sorry for having delayed the answer to your embarrassing questions.

The ADE.Old stack is no more available (neither Mac nor PC). It was part of

version 3.7 and it disappeared with the translation of ADE modules into C

available in the version 4. So any part of the documentation that dealt

with ADE.Old has to be forgotten (in terms of procedure). If you want to

get graphs that are very close to those of the "Fuzzy Correspondence

analysis" documentation I have translated a proposition made on 26/11/97 by

D. Chessel.

------------------------------------

We have to apologize that some modules associated to the analysis oof fuzzy

coded variables were not imported in the version 4.0. Especially,

Fuzzytable, FuzzyRowScore, FuzzyScore1 and FuzzyScore2 are no more

available in ADE-4. Follows some useful information to overcome this

problem.

The FuzzyRowScore module positioned modalities (columns) with their scores

of variance equal to 1. A row was positioned at the average of modalities

of that row. By contrast, the FuzzyScore1 or 2 modules positioned rows with

their scores of variance equal to 1. A modality was positioned at the

average of rows having the modality.

This possibility is yet available in the ADE-4 version. You may use the

Scatters module and superimpose files "xx.flli" and "xx.flc1" (equivalent

of FuzzyRowScore) or files "xx.flco" and "xx.fll1"(equivalent of

FuzzyScore2). Do not forget to set the scales on the largest values (l1 and

c1 respectively)

Files ".flc1" and "xx.fll1" can be generated from the DDUtil : Add normed

scores option using the "xx.flvp" file as requested.

The last problem concerns the lines that linked modalities and rows. This

kind of presentation was improper since a contant line thickness represents

only roughly a weighted link. Such graphs aimed at presenting the

underlying averaging but was weakly descriptive. The use of various

thickness can be just impossible for large data sets, therefore this

possibility was not imported in the ADE-4 version.

However the ScatterDistri module may help to view the above link. Use the

ScatterDistri : Frequencies option with the file "xx.fll1" and the xxF file

that contains the raw data table (after FuzzyVar : Read Fuzzy File). This

procedure results in as many graphs as the number of modalities. In a given

graph of the jth modality one finds the factorial map of rows. On the same

graphs it is possible to paste similar graphs resulting from the

ScatterDistri : Stars option processed on the same files as the

ScatterDistri : Frequencies option. This is a way to link centroids

(modalities) with corresponding rows. The parametrization of the Row & Col

selection box enables the selection of the modalities of only one variable.

To illustrate the reverse averaging principle just use the ScatterDistri :

Frequencies option with the file "xx.flc1" and xxFTR that contains the

transposed raw data table (after FuzzyVar : Read Fuzzy File and Files :

transpose). This procedure results in as many graphs as the number of rows.

In a given graph of the ith row one finds the factorial map of modalities

(weighted by its use at the ith row). On the same graphs it is possible to

paste similar graphs resulting from the ScatterDistri : Stars option

processed on the same files as the ScatterDistri : Frequencies option to

get lines that link modalities to a centroid for a given row.

The FuzzyTable module will be available soon.

-------------------------------------------------------

*>Finally I would like to know when all topic documents can be fully
*

*>translated in English.
*

Of course this is a question of time because there is over 1000 pages of

topics doumentation to be translated. This is quite a huge work. We will

acknowledge any suggestion concerning Quick Translator Software. The module

documentation is entirely translated into English and may help you though I

admit that it is slightly different from the topic documentation, which

gives advises for a given problem. So I encourage you to be patient and use

the ADElist forum again (hope we answer faster now). Be sure that we try to

do our best to maintain ADE-4 and its documentations.

Hope all this material will be useful to you and other english speaking

ADE-users. Thank you for your interest.

_____________________________________________

Sylvain Dolédec

Universite Claude Bernard Lyon 1

Bat 401C

69622 Villeurbanne CEDEX - France

Tel : (33) 4 72 43 13 63

Fax : (33) 4 72 43 11 41

_____________________________________________

ADE-4 package is available on the Internet

--> http://pbil.univ-lyon1.fr/ADE-4/

_____________________________________________

**Next message:**Deconchat Marc: "CCA: correlation et coefficient des variables explicatives"**Previous message:**Steve Bousquin: "ADE newsgroup"**Maybe in reply to:**Byungok Ahn: "ADE.OLD"**Messages sorted by:**[ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]

*
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30
: Sat Feb 10 2001 - 10:22:00 MET
*